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No one asked why I quit attending after 15 years. Thank you for this. When the Church becomes the organization instead of the people, then it ceases to be the Church. Dont find that in the Bible. 1st at services, then recording those messages fir walk in the word and finally by publishing them. My family attended a smaller Harvest church close to Elgin. Could you provide me with a link please. I pray others in leadership read your post, check their hearts, and follow suit. And where I live that mostly rules out every English speaking church there is! At this point, Im not sure what else your thread can accomplish. How important it is to pray pray pray and check on our leaders also of their growth in Christ and what our church mission is and to stay biblical, not political but biblical. But are they? Thankful for her thoughtful response and I agree with you that God knows all of this and isnt surprised by any of it including the timing of her response. Thats when eight former elders sent a letter to the sitting elder board, warning them that MacDonald was disqualified for office, she said in a response posted Wednesday. My father went through prostate cancer. While I have no say in the future of Harvest, it is ridiculous to think that any healthy future can take place until the cancer is removed. Why kick him and the church while their down Lina? Of course people can join in with instruments too. Thank you Lina for your honesty and boldness and ultimately helping me put words to what I have been experiencing through the preaching of James. Harvest, an off-shoot of an eponymous megachurch in Illinois, was sued for. Its like I seek mans favor as well, rather than the Lords. God bless. The Elephants Debt, which had posted criticism of MacDonald, including stories by former Harvest members, elders, pastors, and staff, throughout 2012 and 2013, went on a posting hiatus at around this time. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. I didnt know you personally, but was a part of and benefited from the many programs that you offered through womens ministry. Our GOD is an awesome GOD. Yet a week ago I posted on FB an invitation to open my house to anyone who needed to talk about their pain as it related to what was happening at Harvest. So Grace is only for MacDonald and no one else not the elders he excommunicated, not the numerous employees who were fired or kids who were expelled from HCA, not the pastor who was fired in FLORIDA and had his church taken away I would ask you SERIOUSLY??!! Each former leader that speaks out helps us heal and validates our experience. That IS A LIE!! With so much gaslighting going on and public take-downs of those who would speak truth to power, and your investment in the church industrial complex, I can imagine how difficult it wouldve been to speak out publicly at the time of your leaving. Not one. After that, I felt like my time was wasted. Hannibal Harvest Bible Church (EIN# 862793399) is an tax exempt organization filed with Internal Revenue Service (IRS). I should have left that week, but I was too afraid to cause damage to Jesus and His kingdom and the women I was leading at that time. The current model for pastor directed churches says that the senior pastor is the priest this is Old Testament. Further, Nellie, I am glad that you missed out on being a victim of the authoritarian rule that grew, without check, in the once fertile soil of a formerly great ministry. I am saddened by it. This scandal that were going through has really rocked my world. Thank you for your thoughts and strong, encouraging words. In the arbitration, MacDonald retained the rights to Walk in the Word, a part of the church that had put on his teaching ministry and popular radio broadcast. [] While only a handful showed up, the range of their pain was wide. He is very likely not a brother in Christ. Amen sister!! Do you remember how Jesus acted towards the money changers and false shepherds? Harvest will also reimburse MacDonald another quarter-million dollars related to selling his former home and transfer compensation related to his retirement benefits. This did not happen to James, he did this, by sinning repeatedly. When I left my job I stayed at HBC for about another year before leaving entirely. I applaud you for your courage to leave the church and let the fall out damage by James to you as a person and your career ministry, to be in Gods hands. The first one is in the magazine Relevant and looks at the allegations of Anne Green being inappropriately touched by James MacDonald. Lina has every right to speak her truth . You wrote a blog about how an increase in tattoos was in some way related to a decline in holiness and you were a leader in the church? And then unfortunately when we do speak up we get comments like yours saying why nowit seems Christians cant win either way. Two top Harvest Bible Chapel pastors today announced they're resigning, following a "season" of difficulty sparked by the termination and scandal involving disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. The day I watched the video, I emailed my campus pastor and asked for an explanation. I too visited Harvest. In the early 2000s, Harvest embarked on an ambitious expansion plan, aiming to form "10 churches in 10 years." Since then the church has opened locations in Elgin, Highland Park, Niles, Crystal. Wow. I didnt want to upset James. Like the unsaved around us we fight for positions of prestige to lord it over one another. We attended Elgin from 2005 through 2008. I was too afraid to ask her why. Did you realize elders and pastors are personally apologizing g to people? Dull other times. There are people there I thought were my friend and as soon as my life takes a left turn and happens out of order (first came baby then came marriage and then another baby) I get ousted out and judged and hurt. May the love of Jesus Christ and his peace flood over you this day! Bless you! Please anchor in on John 7:24. @Ross, Were you able to access it? Oh my how that resonated with me and the experiences my beloved and I have had with churches in the UK. I love this idea! James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. Others have asked, but immediately defend the senior pastor and church. We are to fear God not man. To judge a fellow brother and think you know if he is a believer is dangerous. I met you when you spoke at Harvest Davenports womens ministry retreat and events many years ago and was challenged and inspired by your teaching. The assistant pastor just tried to deflect and justify the pastors actions. I have had similar experiences at The Chapel . The sin that has taken place does not negate the awesome work that God has done, and it pains my heart to hear people act as if it does. I also dont know why it took me five years to leave, but now Ive been at a true Bible preaching, Jesus exulting church, not too far from the RM campus. Their letter covered MacDonalds self-promotionlove of moneydomineering and bullying abusive speech[and] outbursts of anger.. God is sifting His church! They made excuses for him. When you started, you (and others) mentioned the cult of personality that James benefitted from. WORLD Magazine and other evangelical news outlets celebrated this resolution. Pray for James and Christs church that the LORD would accomplish what HE and HE alone is allowing. So often, you would open your home to us. Sometimes being good will also mean being nice, but sometimes it will not. I pray shes wrong. 2023 ChurchLeaders.com, All rights reserved. People meant evil but God works it out for our good. Others will be hurtit is a matter of time. Lastly, we need to comfort hurting today, she wrote. I dont appreciate you getting political this has nothing to do with it.. Are you referring to the Democratic Party? And a few days later James MacDonalds sons, Luke and Landon MacDonald, also announced they are resigning. Others had old wounds that had resurfaced and were hurting, having never felt closure to their stories. Last November, Harvests new elders (all those who served under MacDonald stepped down) declared that their former pastor failed to meet the elder qualifications laid out in Scripture and could not return to their church. This should not be! Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.. Hence the Response Statement Regarding Pastor James and Anne Green yesterday on HBC in the news. Letting you know about this is one of the most loving things that Lina can do at this time so that others dont experience the pain that she went through. His sermon provides good reasons for why we need to shine light on these abuses. I should have left that week, but I was too afraid to cause damage to Jesus and His kingdom and the women I was leading at that time. You can read that article here. But I hope the healing can begin, and I hope the abuse will stop.. Matthew 7:15: Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Unfortunately I dont think the Harvest RM is the only Harvest with a culture of fear. Her first year at college and her first visit to Harvest RM. I had a bad experience at the Chapel myself. Harvest Bible Chapel has owned its mistakes and endured to become a happier and healthier church, whose members recently pledged financially, in their walk/work for Christ, and in their. On January 8th, after learning that anything obtained through subpoenas related to the lawsuit could be made public, however, Harvest Bible Chapel dropped the lawsuit. Let us pray God will send His Spirit upon us and cure us of this. Women are not silenced: This model is not original and is old but it is appropriate for the megachurch and also for the persecuted church. Do you not remember that God used His Chosen to reveal the sin of not only churches, in the New Testament, but also to Kings in Old Testament. I, too, have friends who have never once asked how I am or why I left. I hope that the cleansing and purification will come to Davenport as well. Now, the church has decided its longtime leader wont be coming back. I pray that God will heal those hurt by him and his abuse of authority. Now that all MacDonald men are gone and the elder board has been cut down to 9 men until a brand spanking new group of men are approved of, I am curious to see where this train goes. People need to be accountable for their actions. She loves the Word and words, is a binge reader and grammar nut, and is fanatic (as her family can attest) about Jeopardy! Our focus should be on Christ and Christ alone, not James MacDonald. James MacDonald and the leaders of HBC did that with their own hands, hearts, & minds. Did they not find that video shocking? You did the right thing and I believe more will step up not to dishonor James, but noticing how much the church has changed. That timeline accelerated, when on Tuesday morning highly inappropriate recorded comments made by Pastor MacDonald were given to media and reported, the church wrote. If the church treated Lina this way, they will do it to you and others without a second thought. Thank you for sharing and speaking truth Lina. You can read that story right here. Do you see any fruit from him of what God speaks of? No wonder Harvest dropped the suit. Subscribe to CT Lina, this took courage and Im glad you said it. This team is to be made up of congregants, staff, professionals, and elders, and will be headed by a church member. I see Jesus in youfrom one member of the Body to another. Have you sought the Lord in prayer and fasting?Exposing sin is not hurtful then you would be against every prophet in the Bible. 1 Timothy 5:20 While regret cant look back, we now live in a different era than we did four years ago. There are always two sides to every story not really believing your story and if someone is a Christian you would talk about this with some Church leaders not blow it all out in public its sad that it was done that way that isnt what a Christian would do it is what a secular person would do. It took months to get over the hurt he caused my husband and I. I didnt want to risk any negative impacts on my own growing ministry. Its difficult to understand how people can now know what they know and still only criticize the ones that feel compelled to now share their story. When we left, after having posted a letter to the elders, not a single person called us to see how we were doing. 12:18) as while working through this year-and-half-long process of transition. If so Id be in agreement but again- this is not a political post. The link was in my post above. Driscoll, now MacDonald. 35The good man brings out of his good treasure what is good; and the evil man brings out of his evil treasure what is evil. The former Harvest Bible Fellowship leaders now at GCCwhich contains about 130 churches, more than half of which still have Harvest in their namesshare concerns about the churchs leadership and are looking for transparency and repentance from MacDonald. Criticism of MacDonald begun to surface on The Elephants Debt, a blog founded in 2012, run by Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant, former members era of Harvest Bible Church. My coworker who was Catholic and going through a painful divorce, was led to Christ by me. There were several close family deaths, lost our home, business and more. Our good is like the filthy rags of the leper! It seems to have so many cracks in the structure. I am now going to read the rest of your post. Go figure..Disappointed, Searching for a new study close by. (Galatians 2:11-21) Read the commandment in 1 Timothy 5:19-20 on the correction of Elders who sin, so that other Elders will be afraid to continue sinning against the flock. These are the same elders who signed the letter of unconditional support for James, and then they fire him? While many in the congregation were willing to give it a second chance, some members raised concerns about many of these individuals closeness to MacDonald, and their willingness to cover for him for so long. Thank God the early Christians stood firm and did not run away from troubles. It doesnt mean anything.. Youve blessed me when I heard you speak at a Harvest Womens event about 10 yrs ago, through your radio ministry and at an event you spoke at last year. Hidden things have come to light. The timing of this article makes you less credible. it seems to me that people give more grace to the offender than the victim. Is it perfect? A friend sent me a link to sermon about this yesterday: https://radical.net/sermon/kingdom-community/. Lina, given your vast experience, It is ironic that the experience at Harvest should be seen as a culture of fear. Your sister in Christ in Auburn, Indiana. The culture of fear is real, soo much so I dont feel comfortable giving my name as some will know me. Otherwise, the church must answer the same question, for that is one of the majors that Jesus gave us. That night changed me. Finances: Giving not Tithing. What matters is truth be told. Another blind believer. What does the Bible say about debt? Though MacDonald initially opted to step away from all preaching and leadership roles at the churchs Chicago-area locations, in his January 16 sabbatical announcement he suggested he might still preach at a Harvest congregation in Naples, Florida, which led to another saga. It is a shame to Christianity what is happening here. I do pray that the entire senior leadership staff and elders who have participated in sheltering the truth for their own gain would be called out by the Lord. Christians! I am excited for all God is doing in your life to help other women get closer in their relationship with Jesus. The controversial founder and former pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel is barred from serving as pastor or elder of the popular evangelical Christian church ever again after an investigation. * 36But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. What would Jesus do? Lina, Instead, it was MacDonald and his inner circle that were making the decisions, unilaterally. The current leadership at Harvest Bible Chapel including Luke and Landon and Rick and Mo and Jeff and the CFO are infected by the cancer of fear and control. 3. One thing that has helped is recognizing seasons. But the biggest lesson is people need to stop looking at preachers as though they are perfect, but God know they arent and they need people on their necks to keep them honest. Why now does not matter. this isnt meant to hurt you but to support those who need it. Church Online is a place for you to experience God and connect with others. I will not address any party affiliation. I questioned a particular sermon that clearly was unbiblical but no one else did. You are loved. Let us examine ourselves for unconfessed sin and seek to live in fear of the Lord lest bitterness overtake us.. No one knows why. BTW, Ive loved your blogs in the morning, but cant read the Twitter ones because I am not on Twitter. I pray that moving forward, His love will control me no matter the consequences. These churches do not usually belong to any denominational body; this means that these pastors have no body above them that they are accountable to. I was just starting out at Harvest in September of 2011. God wins the war. Our cold hearts lack love that shows the world we are His. Thank you for your honesty and your explanation. In her expos, titled Hard Times at Harvest, Roys details evidence from former Harvest elders, employees and members that show an ongoing pattern of relational and financial abuse, a lack of transparency and outright deception., Harvest strongly disputes the claims, saying Roys has an unhealthy fixation on the church and failed to uncover the desired scandal.. Im far removed from this situation, but saddened by it nonetheless. How are you so sure she didnt pray about this? see My Dream Church https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/, I would love to chat and learn more of what you are doing. OnFebruary 13, the elders announcedJames MacDonald had been fired. Those of us that have experienced spiritual abuse and church hurt personally can truly resonate with your story. Torn between right and wrong. SHERI PINE. But wait who is that lurking around the edges, his deeds the center of everyones interest in our church right now, salivating and gleeful that divisiveness and sin is healthy within the body of Christ? We attended Harvest for 16 years before we left little over 4 years ago. Be blessed dear Sister. I loved his book Vertical Church. The Harvest and James MacDonald Controversy Explained, Did Pharaoh Have Free Will? Before the article was even printed, Harvest sued Roys, plus two bloggers who've been critical about problems at Harvest. The moment I read about someone saying something about planting child pornography on the Christianity Todaycomputers, I knew I had to figure out what the heck was going on. God is purifying His Church. I do have to laugh though. He kept going back to you disobeyed the pastor so youre wrong (me in this case for talking to the youth and his mom about it after it happened). Hmm. This all happens when we gather, grow and go together as followers of Jesus. Faith is Christ living. And you will not lose true friends and sisters in Christ. I hate to be James because God judges leadership harsher than the regular sinner. That is why I really rally for our black preacher and pastors like Keion Henderson, https://www.keionhenderson.com/about-us/ ! Lauren Boebert And Marjorie Greene's Adult "So Your Problem with Christianity is the Jesus No, the "Second Shift" Isn't Feminism's Fault. It quickly became one of the 50 largest churches in the country, with over 12,000 members and eight campuses in the Chicago area. Unhappy to see you did not make the approved list. God is using this to grow me as he does in all trials, so for that Im grateful. On his radio show, Muller later aired what sounded like clips of MacDonald making harsh comments toward media who had covered the story. Its hard no impossible- to do everything with the right motivation. It didnt. Lina, Its messy. Everything is being talked about at great lengths regarding Harvest except for Who the body of Christ should be praying to, talking about and quoting. I have a Patreon! At the moment were seeing the effects of a down cycle away from God. Pastor James teaching seemed so Biblical. or is it the congregations fault for being weak and gullible? Others wised up and slowly left. I was wrong in hindsight. You can read about the continued corruption and fraud here: Dan George's Resignation. Harvest and MacDonald had a contentious separation last year, when he lost the position he held for 30 years over inappropriate comments and harmful conduct stemming from his legal battle with people investigating the church. Pray for all the lost and unsaved who are not hearing the Gospel and our testimonies right now from our lips because sin has been made the main thing. The more I think about the demise of Harvest Bible Chapel and James MacDonald, the more I believe that fear is the cancer at the root of it all specifically the fear of James MacDonald. If you ever make that offer again, Ill be there, but please post on Twitter. Some women were still in the middle of the trauma and were still currently attending Harvest. Swicegood released a statement saying that much of what has been alleged "is simply false, misleading and hateful." He added that the . Division and to take a part a ministry that was reaching and teaching people all over the world. Ted Haggard bemoans his "exile" in a new HBO documentary. I think the congregation who asks these questions should know that I pray for them. I guess I felt like one of the peons of Harvest, and that me reaching out wouldnt matter, since I was not a part of the inner circle or personally close to you. It takes a long time. I have or attend 3 or more small groups a week now and feel alive. Since I know I am capable of the worst sin, I am choosing to show grace and praying fervently. Our enemy loves this. We did not want to cause a split or damage the cause of Christ, so we quietly left. As happens in evangelicalism, Harvest effectively became its own denomination, with MacDonald at its head. We are wounded and grieving. FEAR is a liar, pray for them and never let offense take you out, that was the enemys plan! Doing ministry you love. I havent seen the video but abuse of power at any level is sickening!! Each weekend, services include live, vertical-focused worship. It was simply not possible. Why would we be any different? God help those who cant see their need to be set free or judge those whove found it in Christ Jesus. Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. There were other things that caused us to leave also. Be blessed. The Jews ebb and flow toward God followed a pattern. Biblical: submission to the Word in My Dream Church will be at a higher level When this happens, there is tremendous spiritual and emotional wounding. Harvest Bible Chapel's Elgin campus H arvest Bible Chapel has reached a multimillion-dollar agreement to transfer some of its assets to former pastor James MacDonald, who plans to continue in. Im thankful you and so many others I know have left with dignity and after a bit of healing have jumped back into churches where they are serving the Lord with all their hearts using the gifts God has given them so faithfully. As a result, I was asked to meet with the elders, pull the blog piece and write a new one that James would first approve. I didnt want to be rebellious against authority. Subscribers receive full access to the archives. Ive been in the medical field for over 40 years and know a thing or two about human anatomy. 34You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjXhWUyGi0&list=PLud2nIxx0IAT58I8QPBdfrOz8bFMQQcd6&index=4&t=0s. However, James is not the same person he was when he began that church and if he was to continue leading it, he would hurt countless others. Join in with instruments too elders who signed the letter of unconditional for. Free will each weekend, services include live, vertical-focused worship your thread can accomplish level is!... Them and never let offense take you out, that was reaching and teaching people over. How can you, being evil, harvest bible church scandal what is good that resonated with me the! 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